Greenbelt development – update

Green-fieldWe agree on the need for ‘affordable’ housing locally but the NFDC proposal to allocate development of around 150 houses on ‘green belt’ sites at Pinetops and north of Alexandra Road would compromise the town’s boundaries. Action: At the Sites & Development Management Plan hearing on 23 Apr 2013 LymSoc’s representative put it to Inspector that the SDMP was unsound as the Council had failed to provide evidence of having considered reasonable alternatives to sites allocated and that the choice of locations locally might be better addressed through a Neighbourhood Plan. Comment: Inspector accepted NFDC’s proposition that the only sites where additional housing could be sited were within green belt surrounding Lymington & Pennington (the Inspector at the Core Strategy hearing had accepted this proposition and he was not going to disagree). Status: Inspector’s interim report issued; it does not question NFDC’s allocation at Pinetops and Alexandra Road; it only asks NFDC to respond to a number of mainly technical questions, which, however, will require a further round of public consultation.

Background: The NFDC Sites and Development Management plan sets out the detailed proposals required to implement the planning strategy for the area agreed through the Core Strategy (adopted in 2009). The plan allocates a limited amount of greenfield land for new development to meet the local need for additional housing, affordable housing and employment. Between 2006 – 2026, the overall South East Plan requires 3,920 additional dwellings.

Lymington Society Organises Sell Out Trip Round Berthon Boatyard

home page bethonAt the kind invitation of Brian and Dominic May, Directors of the Berthon Boatyard in Lymington, the Lymington Society arranged for one of its varied programme of member’s social events to take place at the Berthon Boatyard on the 7th of May. This meeting proved to be one of the most popular that the Society has organised in recent years with almost 80 members and guests enjoying a fascinating and memorable visit to one of Lymington’s most important and high profile businesses.

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2013 AGM

cropped-logo_small.jpgThe 2013 AGM took place at the Lymington Community Centre on 26th March 2013. The Chairman gave his address highlighting the Society’s achievements over the last twelve months. Elections to the committee were approved and the new web site was presented to the membership.

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Gordleton expansion: our planning response

Gordleton update: there’s a new application registered 19 Aug 2013- see NFDC website. Then, add your comments on this website.

11033; Gordleton Industrial Park; construct buildings for industrial, storage and business use (Use Classes B1, B2, & B8) (Outline Application with details only of access, layout and scale).
GordletonUpdate: Application withdrawn by agent’s e-mail dated 10th May 2013.
The NFDC is considering an application to increase the size of Gordleton industrial park by around 30%. We are in favour of developing employment opportunities in Lymington and Pennington but this is not the right location.

Planning permission for the original Gordleton Industrial Park was granted at appeal in 1979. When it was first built Gordleton was the main option for expanding employment locally but there are now reasonable alternatives. Industrial capacity has been added in the immediate area and nearby, notably at Ampress. We understand there is a large unoccupied unit at Gordleton, together with undeveloped space within the existing site.

The capacity of the existing access roads is completely inadequate to bear the increased levels of traffic that this proposal implies. The size of lorries when Gordleton first opened was a lot smaller than today. The ambulance station at Gordleton has introduced additional pressure on nearby roads. This proposal would risk producing delays that could have serious consequences.

Contrary to Local Plan policy The Transport Assessment submitted with this application underestimates the impact of the likely increase in traffic. It does not make it clear that the only practical approach to the site for large vehicles is along the Sway Road. The increased traffic along this narrow road would deter other road users e.g. cyclists, pedestrians and walkers from using the road. The application cannot therefore be considered to comply with Local Plan policy CS24.

In 1998, a similar planning application was refused in part because the roads leading to the site were considered to be of inadequate width and alignment to accommodate the additional traffic likely to be generated by the development.

We understand that at a meeting on 18.04.2013, Lymington & Pennington Town Council decided to recommend refusal of this application. We ask the Council to support the recommendation of their planning officers and refuse this application. ENDS.

Application details: 13/10257; Gordleton Industrial Park, Hannah Way SO41 8JD. Proposal: construct buildings for industrial, storage and business use (Use Classes B1, B2, & B8) (Outline Application with details only of access, layout and scale).

See our objection and all comments on the NFDC website:
http://planweb3.newforest.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=summary&keyVal=_NEWFO_DCAPR_182684.

Sale of the Lymington Bus Station for Redevelopment

Bus StationThe Lymington Society has been aware for several years of the likelihood that the bus station would one day be sold for development as it has previously been listed by the NFDC as a potential site in its housing planning guidance.

Now that the site is finally to be sold, the Society very much welcomes the fact that the bus services operated from the bus station will not be curtailed and that the funds raised will be used to support the continuation of a full bus service. We are also pleased to hear that there will be no redundancies due to the sale.

In these difficult times bus services provide a vital lifeline for poorer families and older people especially and we hope that all the current services will continue much as before. We hope that this opportunity will be taken to ensure that the service fully integrates with the train service at the railway station.Bus Station-3

Speaking to the A & T after the announcement of the sale of the Bus Station Lymington Society Press Spokesman said:

“Clearly any future development which emerges on this unique site will need to be carefully designed to fit in to the heart of the Georgian centre of Lymington and the Society will work with the community to ensure that any designs chosen are suitable.

However the prospect of a large new development right in the centre of the town which could contain new housing as well as retail and business elements is an exciting prospect.

A suitable development is certainly something that the Society would welcome as it could inject much needed vitality into the centre of the town at this difficult time for many traders and the local economy.

In combination with the exciting Redrow development which is now proceeding apace, any eventual development could have a major effect in helping to rejuvenate the town.

The Lymington Society would welcome the opportunity to take an active part in consultations with the eventual owners to try and obtain the best result possible for the town on this important site”

Greenbelt development 2013

Public hearing on ‘green belt’ housing in Lymington & Pennington 23rd April at Glasshouses_at_Pinetops_Nurseries,_Upper_Pennington,_Lymington_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1748941.30 pm. As part of the Sites & Development Management plan the New Forest District Council is looking at sites that could provide an additional 150 new homes, up to 70% of them affordable homes, on ‘green belt’ sites at Pinetops nurseries (listed as ‘Lym 1’ in the plan) and at a site to the north of Alexandra Road (‘Lym 2’). The Council has acknowledged our input at each stage of consultation on the preparation of the plan. The final stage of the formal adoption process is a public hearing at which a Planning Inspector tests the ‘soundness’ of the plan. The hearing began in February but some sessions had to be re-scheduled, owing to the Inspector’s illness. The session on ‘green belt’ housing in Lymington & Pennington is now scheduled for 23rd April at 1.30 pm at the NFDC offices at Appletree Court, Lyndhurst. See details for the public hearing at: http://www.newforest.gov.uk/index.cfm?articleid=10281

The Society understands and supports the need for affordable housing locally but there are reasonable alternatives to encroaching onto these green belt areas. Planning policy allows small scale exceptions to the prohibition on green belt development in special circumstances but the scale of the development proposed cannot be considered small scale. Neither of these sites is suitable for the scale of development proposed which would have significant implications on traffic and infrastructure locally. It would urbanise and significantly alter the character that is valued locally and highlighted in the Lymington Local Distinctiveness SPD.

We think that the sites and development management plan fails to properly consider reasonable alternatives for the location of additional housing locally – including affordable housing – and will be arguing strongly against the allocations at Pinetops and Alexandra Road at the hearing.

Background: The NFDC Sites and Development Management plan sets out the detailed proposals required to implement the planning strategy for the area agreed through the Core Strategy (adopted in 2009). The plan allocates a limited amount of greenfield land for new development to meet the local need for additional housing, affordable housing and employment. Between 2006 – 2026, the overall South East Plan requires 3,920 additional dwellings.

The Society’s view on the listing of the Sea Water Baths

Sea water Baths

The Lymington Society has been aware for some time that English Heritage was considering a possible listing of the Lymington Sea Water Baths and that they had commissioned a detailed report on the historic significance of the baths.  We now very much welcome the outcome of their deliberations and their decision to list the baths as Grade Two Listed

The Lymington Society has been concerned for some time that the unique charm and historic settings of the Lymington Sea Water baths could be under threat from some of the more ambitious schemes that were being debated around the town.  Whilst appreciating that the maintenance of the baths and their safe operation had become increasingly problematic in this more safety conscious era, we were concerned that the rumoured redevelopment proposals could threaten the future of the baths as many have known and loved them for generations.

Speaking after the announcement by English Heritage Don Mackenzie Lymington Society Spokesman said:

We made enquires several months ago with English Heritage as to how the Society could take forward the listing of the baths.  We found that a request had already been made to English Heritage and that rather than reject this application they had produced an in-depth report on the history and significance of the baths.  We were pleased to add our support to the original request from a member of the public for listing to be granted.

 We felt that in view of English Heritage’s findings concerning the great historic importance of the baths that they would be more likely than not to agree to the listing.  Now that English Heritage has completed their assessment and has decided to list the baths we are very pleased and fully support their decision which may be the key to the baths long term retention and improvement.  

 Whilst understanding that this decision may be viewed by some as making necessary redevelopment of the baths more difficult, we sincerely hope that the listing of the baths will now in fact make it easier to obtain the vital funds that the bath need in order to guarantee their long term future. We hope that the authorities will understand that despite the listing, some sympathetic development of the baths and the area around them may well still be needed to give them a long term future.

Chairman’s 2012 AGM Address

cropped-logo_small.jpgChairman’s 2012 AGM Address

50 years of the Society

Last year I reviewed the activities of the Society’s Committee under my chairmanship over the past 10 years or so. I have now been reminded by the Secretary, Dr Ivor Johnson, that this is the 50th anniversary of the founding of the Society. I believe it was formally instituted on 16 April 1962. One of its founder members was Bill Hope Jones who was our president until his death a few years ago. He continued to actively support the Society until he died.

Missing Records—can you help?

I have looked up some of the records of the Society which cover the decade of the 90s. If anyone else knows where the previous records are going back into the60s 70s and 80s then please do let us know. I don’t say they had an easy time of it in the 90s. There was the major planning appeal in relation to Buckland rings in 1987 and the ongoing issue of the siting of the hospital all the way through the 90s.

My reason for joining

It was the possibility of being able to push forward the development of the Hospital that encouraged me to join the Society’s Committee and to become its Chairman and very soon after, probably not due to any great effort on my part, the hospital was built and is a very splendid facility for the Town, whether one likes its location or not.

All change with the new millennium

Apart from the Hospital, things in the minutes in the 90s were some what routine. I don’t know whether it was the fault of the new Committee but, as I set out in my last Chairman’s speech last year, everything then happened. The Chicken Factory Site issue became active and has had a mind of its own ever since. Mr Prescott decided to encourage development on Brownfield sites and incorporated back gardens into the term Brownfield. That started a battle which lasted several years until the planners came round to our way of thinking following a public meeting, and the Government eventually modified its directives. previous meetings with envy. Possibly two or three letters to be discussed. These days not a day goes by without emails circulating amongst the Committee dealing with all these issues. We take the details them as read and discuss the wider principles at our Committee meetings. It is principles upon which an Amenity Society needs to operate. Its mission and message need to be clear. It is not an organisation for individual one-off issues important as they are. It has to look at the overall picture and argue to its strengths. That involves getting a good relationship with the planners and the local councillors, which I hope we have now achieved. That does not mean that we all agree all the time. As has happened this year we had surprise decisions not only from the District Councillors over Wetherspoon’s but also from the Town Councillors over Redrow. That does not mean that we fallout but that we put over our point of view to ensure that at the end of the daythe issue has been fully debated and properly considered by those bodies, do not agree with the current plan, but understandable. It is also understandable that a single issue organisation such as “Lymington Last Shores” using a website to attract support, fights on to get a much lower density. The Committee however feel that it has adopted a reasonable and responsible approach which prevents the Town from the risk of the 300 unit development rising to 4 to 5 stories.

…and Wightlink…

On the issue of the ferries the Society has finally seen to a conclusion, in the recent public enquiry, its efforts toensure that the introduction of the ferries was carried out on the basis of all appropriate investigations being carried out by the authorities rather than the presentation of a fait-accompli by Wightlink.

…and Wetherspoons

On Wetherspoon’s we have been surprised and shocked at the Council’s decision to grant the application in the teeth of local opposition and have expended some of our funds in establishing whether there were grounds to challenge that decision. There were, but on a pragmatic basis when it was clear to us that the decision would be likely to be repeated if set-aside after a very risky and expensive judicial review, the right decision was not to go further. Jonathan Hutchinson would like me to say that if any members criticise that decision he would like to know whether they were one of the few members who responded to his request for their views in making that decision.

This is your opportunity to say whether the Committee is doing what you think is right. The Advertiser and Times suggested that we were raising a white flag over Wetherspoon’s. I have sought to justify our position in the local paper. If you have any views let us have them tonight.

The Committee have to act on your behalf. I sit on various committees and Ihave to say that this is one of the most active and well integrated committees that I am involved with and I am lucky to be Chairman of it. I hope you will continue to support it.

Minutes of the Lymington Society AGM 2012

cropped-logo_small.jpg66 members attended the AGM on 20th March 2012.  Minutes of the 2011AGM had been circulated by post and on the website. Apologies received : Lt. Col. Chitty & Mr. Beaumont.

Mr. Sutton welcomed the Mayor and gave the Chairman’s Address (to be published in the newsletter and on the website).  He reminisced on the 50 year history of the Society and its involvement in the preservation of Buckland Rings and in the controversy over the site of the new hospital.

The Treasurer’s Report was given by Mr. Sheffer. He explained the expenditure on legal fees and the need to advertise important meetings concerning the Redrow site. Dr. Mackenzie appealed for members to send emails toinfo@lymsoc.co.uk  to reduce postage costs.  The accounts were then approved by a show of hands.

Mr. Sutton then opened the meeting for questions. Mr. Dixon ask about he maintenance of flower beds and verges, and Mr. Walrock commented on the poor state of pavements and parking areas.  Cllr. Rostand explained the difficulties of dealing with the multiple agencies involved. She congratulated Dr. Mackenzie and the Christmas Lights Committee.

Questions were asked about the licensing of Wetherspoons.  Cllr. Lewis said that opening hours had been reduced, but could not be blocked once permission for a pub had been granted by the planning authority.  She asked thatneighbours keep a careful log of any problems.  Mr. Sheffer reported the British Legion had similar licensing hours.

Mr. Hebard spoke of  the £23m. Coastal Community Fund.   Cllr. Rostand replied that the Council is aware and will appoint an events manager.

Mr. Sutton then paid tribute to the expertise and hard work of Jonathan Hutchinson, who is retiring from the Committee.  There being no nominations from the floor, re-election of current members of the Executive Committee: Clive Sutton, Derek Sheffer, Ivor Johnston,  Nic King, Donald Mackenzie, Nigel Seth-Smith and the co-opted member Tim Kermode was proposed by Cllr. Elizabeth Lewis and seconded by Wendy Couch and passed unanimously.

Dr. Mackenzie then  reported on the social activities of the past year and announced the Summer Garden Party in thegarden of Chawton House on 19th June 2012.

Cllr. Rostand than gave a brief account of preparations for the Queen’s Diamond Jubilee  and explained that the preparations for the Olympic torch were imposed from on high with no input from local councils.  She praised Cllr. Lewis’ organization for the Arts Festival on 18th – 24th June.

After refreshments, Angela Trend gave a talk on Lymington Town Tours illustrated with photographs of the many historical buildings and features demonstrated on the guided walks of the town conducted by volunteers.

The meeting closed at 10pm.

Chairman’s Report for the AGM 17th March 2010

Ladies and gentlemen.

As those of you who have had the patience to listen to my previous Chairman’s addresses will know that I tend to pick up the theme from the previous address and carry it forward.

Last year in asking the question: “What has the Lymington Society done this year which I can share with the members”, I reminded you of three recent headlines in the paper which the Lymington Society was connected with: “Chaos As High Winds Halt New Ferries”;” Landmark Homes Development on Wellworthy Club Site Refused”; “Builders Face Big Bill As Bid to Keep too High Homes Refused”. You can obviously all identify these headlines and how things have developed since then.

The theme that struck me this year at our last monthly committee meeting on 9 March was the amount of dedicated detailed work that the committee members put into the work of the Society.

Here is another list of meetings attended by Members of the Committee in the preceding month:

  •  1st of February: Exhibition on Shoreline Management Plan — attended by one committee member
  •  1st of February: Friends of Lymington Railway AGM — attended by two committee members
  •  25th of February: Local Distinctiveness meeting with council planners — attended by four committee members
  •  4th of March: Lymington Parking Study meeting — attended by one committee member
  •  8th March: meeting with Natural England regarding ferries and mitigation of their damage — attended by three committee members
  •  9th March: presentation by Redrow on their new development attended by five committee members
  •  Finally 9th of March: our monthly committee meeting attended by all committee members including our president Peter Chitty, although one member could not stay, but came to deliver the envelopes he had stuffed with the notices of this meeting!

Is there any other organisation or any other chairman which is as lucky to have such a dedicated group of committee members always ready, if not vying, to attend meetings on subjects which they have a particular interest in connected with the Lymington Society.

As a result of those meetings one can summarise the Society’s current situation.

On ferries we have responsibly promoted a situation where the ferries issue is going to be resolved with a full intervention of the appropriate authorities and not purely on the basis of a take it or leave approach by Wightlink, and with proper liaison with Natural England as to an assessment of the impact of the larger ferries.

On the linked aspect of the shoreline, so important to Lymington, we are closely involved with that subject.

On the railway line, we support the friends of Lymington Railway and will maintain a useful liaison that will benefit Lymington and potentially affect development in the future

On Local Distinctiveness, this meeting has been one example of our lead role in cooperation with the planners in an analysis which I will mention more on in a moment

On the Redrow Riverside site, as I shall now call it, an extremely useful dialogue with Redrow as to its plans.

Finally I can say that our association with the Pennington Residents Association continues ensuring that our representations on Pennington are co-ordinated, if not always identical, and I paid particular tribute to Chris Howe for his cooperation.

Expanding on the subjects of these meetings can I say that the old Wellworthy Club site, which is going to be such an important building at the gateway to Lymington, is edging towards an agreed development with the cooperation of the developers, who have put forward various schemes. We thought the last scheme was probably as good as it would get but had strong reservations about the lack of parking and the effect on traffic.  The planners would like something better and we hope that the eventual scheme will do justice to that sensitive corner.

I say this from the point of view that the other sensitive entrance to the conservation area, the traffic lights, is now in process of development with the assistance of the first crane of that size in the Lymington area. As this can be seen from the Keyhaven marshes there is no escape from being reminded of this planning decision.

The second major issue this year has been the Council’s initiative on Local Distinctiveness in which they have involved the Society from the beginning.

I can remind members of a very useful meeting hosted by the Society with local councillors to ensure that we all got off on the right foot with this.

Local distinctiveness will create a new Supplementary Planning Guidance covering the whole area of the town not covered by conservation areas to identify locally distinctive characteristics, with which new development should be sympathetic and should comply. One can imagine that if that policy had been in place, so that inspectors had to follow it, several of the more prominent new buildings recently would not have been built in the way that they have.

On the subject of what the Society considers planning mistakes in the area of Avenue Road, I suspect the final local distinctiveness document will identify some of these and say that they should not be followed as precedents as they have been built out of character with their particular locations.

That brings me onto the biggest new development which will soon take place on the old Webb Site, now Redrow’s site. I recall this is one of the first issues I dealt with as Chairman, to be involved in the original supplemental planning guidance prior to the original planning permission, which conspicuously was not followed by the Council at that time. The position is that we are now fixed with the original permission that was provided by the Council, against many of the members’ better judgement.

Redrow’s could build on the basis of that permission, but as we learnt at presentation last week they have chosen to dramatically review the plans and come up with a much improved scheme.

Firstly specialist architects have been brought in and we were addressed at our meeting by Sir Richard McCormac of  MJP Architects who is a former President of the RIBA.

The previous scheme had allowed for the road access with the condition of a rear pedestrian access somewhere across the railway.

The imaginative difference of the current scheme has been to make the pedestrian access across the railway the central focus of the site and a link with the Town.  The bridge over the railway would be part of a graded access from the station car park, described possibly as “Station Square”, onto a high level entrance square of the development. The semicircular development radiates out from there with radial visual lines to and from theRiverside. On the Riverside, buildings will connect with the water and relate to it rather than looking away and inwards from it as the previous development did.

The development will, as presently considered, still be quite dense with up to 300 units but much broken up and protected by trees. The other committee members and councillors and planning officers, who were at the meeting, felt that this was an imaginative way to review the development, given that there is planning permission for a significant scheme at present.

Another feature which has pleased me particularly is how the Council have now involved local organisations such as this Society with the initial concept, rather than the exclusion which took place under earlier regimes. I recall how when we have called the previous developers to a public meeting to explain their plan, councillors said that if they had been put in touch with public feeling, they would have started their plan from a completely different concept.

Perhaps this is what we have now achieved. I hope that in due course the current developers, Redrow, will be able to attend a meeting to explain their plan to our membership as a whole and to take into account any feedback, as indeed happened at this recent meeting.

The climate of dialogue with the planners has really changed dramatically over the last few years, in response, I hope, to the reasonable and objective approach taken by the Society committee members to development matters.

Not least this has occurred in relation to the Town Council, who have been extremely grateful by the frequent presence of Jonathan Hutchinson dealing with planning matters. I think they would not mind me saying that when Jonathan goes to express the Society’s view on important issues which affect the character of the town, they wish he would stay to help them with the more mundane problems that as planning committee councillors they have to face!

On the question of cooperation, can I say that whilst in the past successive Town Councillors took the view that cooperation between the Town Councillors and the Society was incompatible with their public position, again we now have an extremely good working relationship with the current mayor Cllr Jan Hawker, who attended our local distinctiveness meeting.

I am afraid our current cooperation does not extend to the practicalities of ensuring that our AGM and an important Town Council meeting did not clash which is why the Lady Mayoress is not able to be here today, but I can assure our members that that is purely accidental and does not reflect on our relationship and she would be here if she could.

I am only the spokesperson for a Committee whose individual efforts for the Society are on a much more dedicated basis than mine. I tend to guide and encourage the Committee and where necessary pick up the pieces, but it is the other committee members who, all of them in their different ways, form the engine room of this Society.

I have named the committee members specifically previously and I will not embarrass them again but they are here today and can be spoken to informally afterwards. I will mention our thanks to Marion Jakes who joined us a couple of years ago as a committee member and took an interest in marshes and coastal matters but resigned recently.

The remaining members continue to offer themselves for re-election. I appreciate that new blood is always welcome but this committee works extremely well with all existing members having a task to do. I can assure you that it is in no way running out of steam or ideas and you would be well advised to re-elect its members rather than lose any of its wealth of talent.

Ladies and gentlemen I commend the committee to you for re-election in due course.

 

Clive Sutton

Chairman Lymington Society